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<font size=3>Did you get any help on running vim from DSM. I may be able
to help with this if you are still having trouble, let me know.<br><br>
By the way, I did not like having to define a vms logical name TMP in
order to use vim so I ended up patching vim.exe (using vim -b) to change
the logical name to<br>
TM_ !<br><br>
David<br><br>
At 09:53 AM 4/19/2002 +0200, zoltan.arpadffy@essnet.se wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>hi,<br><br>
2. vim does create temp files at $TMP as tmp:vimXXXXXXX.txt (example:
VIMP649D30.TXT;1), and it usually deletes later on... but sys$login
should be user for .rc files, viminfo, viminfo-tmp, tags etc...<br><br>
3. unfortunately I've never worked with DSM, but hopefully somebody from
the vim-vms list did, and can help you.<br><br>
Regards, Z<br><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: MIME :Mario.Macias@med.va.gov > Sent: Thursday, April 18,
2002 5:58 PM<br>
> To: Arpadffy Zoltan<br>
> Subject: RE: Help with VIM on VMS/DSM<br>
> > > Zoltan,<br>
> > Thanks for answering back on my email; I love vi(m) and would
like to<br>
> replace it totally on our VMS/DSM system here. Do you know
> the answer to<br>
> Problems 2 and 3 (I am<br>
>
assu============================================================<br>
> -(PROBLEM (2)) My Tmp files are not being created in Tmp but > in
my login<br>
> directory.<br>
> -(PROBLEM (2): QUESTION) Should they not be forming in the > Tmp
directory as<br>
> I point to in my login file above?<br>
> > >
============================================================<br>
> -(PROBLEM (3)) I cannot figure out how to put Vi in the DSM
> environment to<br>
> get it to be my default editor in DSM as it already now is in >
VMS. (We use<br>
> DSM as our interpreter to create Mumps code, and it would be >
nice to have<br>
> this working in DSM also. (VI is working fairly well already
> in VMS, and it<br>
> would be a much better editor than EDT that is currently >
running in DSM.<br>
> (EDT is very primitive compared to VI and is the default > editor
that comes<br>
> with DSM)).<br>
> -(PROBLEM (3): QUESTION) How do I import the Vi(m) editor >
into the DSM<br>
> environment. (DSM runs in VMS as the an interpreter and all
> routines in DSM<br>
> are in ASCII, as compilation occurs behind the scenes as code >
is written).<br>
> ming that your answer was for Problem 1?)<br>
> >
============================================================<br>
> -(PROBLEM (2)) My Tmp files are not being created in Tmp but > in
my login<br>
> directory.<br>
> -(PROBLEM (2): QUESTION) Should they not be forming in the > Tmp
directory as<br>
> I point to in my login file above?<br>
> > >
============================================================<br>
> -(PROBLEM (3)) I cannot figure out how to put Vi in the DSM
> environment to<br>
> get it to be my default editor in DSM as it already now is in >
VMS. (We use<br>
> DSM as our interpreter to create Mumps code, and it would be >
nice to have<br>
> this working in DSM also. (VI is working fairly well already
> in VMS, and it<br>
> would be a much better editor than EDT that is currently >
running in DSM.<br>
> (EDT is very primitive compared to VI and is the default > editor
that comes<br>
> with DSM)).<br>
> -(PROBLEM (3): QUESTION) How do I import the Vi(m) editor >
into the DSM<br>
> environment. (DSM runs in VMS as the an interpreter and all
> routines in DSM<br>
> are in ASCII, as compilation occurs behind the scenes as code >
is written).<br>
> > > Thanks again for your help,<br>
> Mario<br>
> ====<br>
> > > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> >
From:<x-tab> </x-tab>zoltan.arpadffy@essnet.se
> [SMTP:zoltan.arpadffy@essnet.se]<br>
> >
Sent:<x-tab> </x-tab>Thursday,
April 18, 2002 12:45 AM<br>
> > To:<x-tab> </x-tab>sandor.kopanyi@essnet.se<br>
> > Cc:<x-tab> </x-tab>Mario.Macias@med.va.gov<br>
> > Subject:<x-tab> </x-tab>RE: Help with
VIM on VMS/DSM<br>
> ><br>
> > hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Unfortunately, this problem is an issue...<br>
> > actually all interwindow regex related commads has this
problem.<br>
> > Between Vim versions 5.8 and 6.0 OpenVMS specific source >
code had been<br>
> > merged with into Unix one to improve compatibility and >
maintenance time<br>
> > for OpenVMS leaving os_vms.c just a non portable part of >
OpenVMS code.<br>
> > With this solution OpenVMS get automatically all Unix >
features and does<br>
> > not need any VMS specific port for every each improvement, >
but it uses<br>
> > heavily Unix C compatibility library, that, seems to have >
some problems on<br>
> > versions 7.1 and below.<br>
> > Vim does not have this behaviour on systems 7.1-2 and
above.<br>
> > on vim-vms list it has been discussed a lot and we decided >
(together with<br>
> > Bram) to leave it as it is.<br>
> > So, it is a known problem, that will disappear by time as >
you upgrade your<br>
> > OpenVMS environment.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards, Z<br>
> ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: Kopányi Sándor > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002
9:23 AM<br>
> > > To: Arpadffy Zoltan<br>
> > > Subject: FW: Help with VIM on VMS/DSM<br>
> > > > > Szia,<br>
> > > > Van vmi otleted?<br>
> > > > udvS.<br>
> > > > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > > From: MIME :Mario.Macias@med.va.gov > > Sent:
Monday, > April 15, 2002<br>
> > 8:02 PM<br>
> > > > To: Kopányi Sándor<br>
> > > > Subject: RE: Help with VIM on VMS/DSM<br>
> > > > > > > > Sandor,<br>
> > > > > > I put the runtine files onto our VMS system
and > when I am in > ><br>
> > "vi" on a file<br>
> > > > (such as "vi filename") and do "help
sort" (or any > other > > help), I<br>
> > get the<br>
> > > > following error:<br>
> > > > "Vim: Caught deadly signal BUS" and VMS
session freezes up.<br>
> > > > > > But if I just do: "vi" with no
file name listed, > then I can > > do<br>
> > "help sort"<br>
> > > > (or any other help feature) and it works OK.<br>
> > > > I downloaded the zip file from polarfax.com: >
vim-61-alpha.zip > ><br>
> > 3772 KB<br>
> > > > > > I set up the following directory structure
for VIM:<br>
> > > > > > Directory TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM]<br>
> > > >
CTAGS.EXE;1
530 7-FEB-2002 16:36:48.30 > ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)<br>
> > > >
GVIMRC.;2
4 3-APR-2002 17:33:00.72 ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,)<br>
> > > >
GVIMRC.;1
4 3-APR-2002 17:32:50.58 ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,)<br>
> > > >
MMS_VIM.EXE;1
8 7-FEB-2002 16:36:48.61 > ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)<br>
> > > >
TMP.DIR;1
1 13-MAR-2002 15:47:59.40 > ><br>
> > (RWE,RWED,RWE,RWE)<br>
> > > >
VIM.EXE;1
4197 7-FEB-2002 16:36:48.64 > ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,RE) **<br>
> > > >
VIMRC.;1
5 3-APR-2002 17:33:28.53 ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,)<br>
> > > >
VIMRUNTIME.DIR;1
1 13-MAR-2002 15:49:17.76 > ><br>
> > (RWE,RWED,RWE,RWE)<br>
> > > > Directory
TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM.VIMRUNTIME]<br>
> > > >
---DOC.DIR;1
8 13-MAR-2002 15:49:56.26 > ><br>
> > (RWE,RWED,RE,RE)<br>
> > > >
---SYNTAX.DIR;1
16 13-MAR-2002 15:50:02.68 > ><br>
> > (RWE,RWED,RE,RE)<br>
> > > >
XXD.EXE;1
30 7-FEB-2002 16:36:50.81 > ><br>
> > (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)<br>
> > > > > > I have the following vim references in my
login.com:<br>
> > > > ED =="VIM"<br>
> > > > $ define VIM TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM]<br>
> > > > $ define TMP TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM.TMP]<br>
> > > > $ define VIMRUNTIME
TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM.VIMRUNTIME]<br>
> > > > $ ! vi starts Vim in chr. mode<br>
> > > > $ vi*m :== mcr
TUSER$:[MARIO.VIM]VIM.EXE<br>
> > > > > > Also, the Tmp files are not being created
in Tmp > but in my > ><br>
> > login directory;<br>
> > > > should they not be forming in the Tmp directory
above?<br>
> > > > > > **(I could not use the one of size: 4930 KB
from > the complete > ><br>
> > download; I<br>
> > > > would get an error and vi would not work)<br>
> > > > > > -Any Ideas or is that the way the help is
supposed > to work: > ><br>
> > you can only use<br>
> > > > help in the vi with no file name listed?<br>
> > > > > > Thanks,<br>
> > > > Mario<br>
> > > > =====<br>
> > > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----<br>
> > > > >
From:<x-tab> </x-tab>sandor.kopanyi@essnet.se
[SMTP:sandor.kopanyi@essnet.se]<br>
> > > > > Sent:<x-tab> </x-tab>Wednesday, April 03,
2002 11:53 PM<br>
> > > > >
To:<x-tab> </x-tab>Mario.Macias@med.va.gov<br>
> > > > >
Subject:<x-tab> </x-tab>RE: Help with
VIM on VMS/DSM<br>
> > > > > > Hi Mario,<br>
> > > > > > > We are using Open VMS Version
V7.2-1 and vim.exe > seems > > to ><br>
> > work on<br>
> > > > > this one.<br>
> > > > > > The only thing I found was that the down
and up > keys on > > Vim<br>
> > work one<br>
> > > > > > keytouch behind when I hit the keypad at
the 1st > position > > of ><br>
> > the file<br>
> > > > > (in<br>
> > > > > > cursor mode).<br>
> > > > > > You can try to re-map those keys (see :map
command).<br>
> > > > > > > > Also, do you know who might know
how to put > vim.exe > > into<br>
> > the > DSM<br>
> > > > > interpreter<br>
> > > > > > of VMS?<br>
> > > > > Unfortunately I have no ideea, I have never been
working with<br>
> > > > > DSM. Sorry...<br>
> > > > > > Best regards,<br>
> > > > > Sandor<br>
> > > > > > > > ><br>
> > > <br>
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