[Wormnet] Some nice chips to start with

Peter Steen peter.steen at ing-steen.se
Mon Dec 5 23:15:05 CET 2005


Hi Folks!




Thanks David to agree with me regarding using real life existing chips. 




I am about to place order of nRF and Chipcon dev. kit chipset tomorrow. It is 


less than $800 togeather. And you can still use the good old KEIL programmer :-)




It is relatively easy to program both the nRF and Chipcon's. They contain 
microcontrollers and the nessesary RF parts for both transmitting and recieving.


It will be very fast to build the supporting software, but wormnet protocol will 
be the pain.




I suggest also to drop the VHDL, it is impractical and mainly intended for fast 
implementing complex logics. (ours is matematics and protocol flows)




Quoting mIB <marcel.bos at ing-steen.se>:










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> Non existing -what is that? there is compilators and there is things you can






> use.  Even the Gnuradio project uses  a FPGA.






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>  http://comsec.com/wiki?UniversalSoftwareRadioPeripheral






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> From: "Peter Steen" <peter.steen at ing-steen.se>






> To: "mIB" <marcel.bos at ing-steen.se>






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> Subject: Re: [Wormnet] Some nice chips to start with






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> 






> > Hi Folks!






> >






> > Well, after my now almost 25 year experience of RF equipment and






> > electronics I will say most fast and secure is to drop the non existing 






> > VHDL






> > and put the energy onto real life existing chips and have that as a 






> > plateform






> > to next step. You can't goto the moon without first have developed a 






> > method to






> > go there.






> >






> > By the way, how many persons are active in this conference ?






> >






> > Citerar mIB <marcel.bos at ing-steen.se>:






> >






> >> intresting ! thanks - I wonther then if we have  A VHDL design -






> >> isn´t that more secure than relying on others chips system?






> >> Its fun all to they claim end of live. I know one project






> >> that runned into that problem wth a FHFS modem ..






> >>






> >>






> >>






> >> ----- Original Message ----- 






> >> From: "Peter Steen" <peter.steen at ing-steen.se>






> >> To: "mIB" <marcel.bos at ing-steen.se>






> >> Cc: <wormnet at polarhome.com>






> >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:20 AM






> >> Subject: [Wormnet] Some nice chips to start with






> >>






> >>






> >> > Hi Folks!






> >> >






> >> > Here are some nice chips, I did not send links last time. These chips 






> >> > is






> >> > used






> >> > today by most vendor to make






> >> > WiFi equipment and Wireless phones as well as 2G/3G mobile phones and 






> >> > base






> >> > stations.






> >> >






> >> > http://www.chipcon.com/index.cfm?kat_ID=2&subkat_Id=12






> >> > http://www.nordicsemi.no/index.cfm?obj=menu&act=displayMenu&men=21






> >> > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/devices.asp?family_id=651






> >> > http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/homepage.jsp?nodeId=01J4Fs






> >> > http://www.toshiba.com/taec/Catalog/Line.do?lineid=7240&familyid=25






> >> > http://www.maxim-ic.com/Wireless.cfm






> >> >






> >> > All those chips qualify less or more to make a first generation wormnet






> >> > the






> >> > easy way.






> >> > They do not force you to be a king in RF, but however you must be 






> >> > familiar






> >>






> >> > with






> >> > RF and DATACOM protocols.






> >> >






> >> > I would like Marcel to fill in what _sources_ he have in VHDL and 






> >> > current






> >> > state






> >> > of knowledge in the areas so it is possible to understand this a bit






> >> > better.






> >> >






> >> > About Software Radio I found a nice overview link:






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> http://www.commsdesign.com/design_corner/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=16506181






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